{"id":55335,"date":"2025-11-23T18:54:06","date_gmt":"2025-11-23T18:54:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/?p=55335"},"modified":"2025-11-23T20:18:14","modified_gmt":"2025-11-23T20:18:14","slug":"us-making-some-changes-in-its-peace-plan-europe-unveils-its-counter-proposal-a-direct-rejection-of-trumps-28-point-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/us-making-some-changes-in-its-peace-plan-europe-unveils-its-counter-proposal-a-direct-rejection-of-trumps-28-point-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"US Making Some Changes in its Peace Plan ! Europe Unveils Its Counter-Proposal: A Direct Rejection of Trump\u2019s 28-Point Plan"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-55339\" src=\"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine.jpg 700w, https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-300x181.jpg 300w, https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-696x421.jpg 696w, https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-695x420.jpg 695w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/>Russia Ukraine Monitoring Desk\u00a0<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p><strong>ISLAMABAD: Negotiations between the US and Ukraine in Geneva have concluded. According to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the US is making some changes to the peace plan, and today&#8217;s meetings were &#8220;the most productive and most significant.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><br class=\"html-br\" \/>He shares , &#8220;We have a very good working product that has already been built upon the input of all relevant parties involved here, and we were able to go through some of those points now, point by point. And I think we made good progress.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">According to Rubio, the teams will continue their work and return with details later.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>EU boss Ursula von der Leyen says three elements are key to a Ukraine peace deal:<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">1 Borders can&#8217;t be changed by force<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">2 No limitations on Ukrainian army that would leave country vulnerable to attack<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">3 Central role for EU in future peace<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The Washington Post reports that European partners have prepared their own alternative to the Trump team\u2019s \u201cpeace plan.\u201d The document, obtained by journalists, is a point-by-point rebuke of the concessions Trump\u2019s envoys attempted to lock Ukraine into.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-55344\" src=\"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-plan.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-plan.jpg 400w, https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/US-EU-Ukraine-plan-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/strong><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>US secretary of state Marco Rubio and Ukrainian presidential adviser Andrii Yermak provide an update on peace deal talks in Geneva.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Here are the core elements of the European plan:<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">@ Ukraine\u2019s military stays intact \u2014 no army cuts, no missile restrictions.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Trump\u2019s plan demands Ukraine slash its Armed Forces by half and abandon long-range missile capability. Europe calls that proposal what it is: a recipe for permanent vulnerability. Under the European counter-plan, Ukraine\u2019s defense capacity remains untouched.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">@ Ukraine regains control of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, the Kakhovka dam, the Kinburn Spit, and full navigation along the Dnipro.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">These aren\u2019t small details. They\u2019re critical national assets \u2014 nuclear safety, water infrastructure, river logistics, and maritime access.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">@ Europe is insisting that Ukraine must not be forced to negotiate from a position of occupation.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">@ Territorial questions would be addressed only after a ceasefire.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">This moves the negotiations back into familiar diplomatic territory: stop the shooting first, then deal with political borders. Trump\u2019s plan tries to settle those borders up front \u2014 with concessions flowing one way.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">European officials call their document a \u201cfoundation that will require further work,\u201d but the message is unmistakable:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Europe wants a process that protects Ukraine, not a deal that rewards Russia.<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>Telegraph reported that Vladimir Putin could return to the world stage under a European peace plan\u00a0that agrees to allow Russia back into the G8.<\/p>\n<p>The offer was made in a counter-proposal to Donald Trump\u2019s 28-point plan, which heavily favoured Russia.<\/p>\n<p>The European plan contains several concessions, including a cap on the size of Ukraine\u2019s army and a commitment to elections that could see Volodymyr Zelensky removed from power \u2013 a key demand of Moscow.<\/p>\n<p>Following an emergency summit in Geneva, Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, said on Sunday night that the US was now \u201cmaking some changes\u201d to its peace plan.<\/p>\n<p>He added: \u201cI think this is a very, very meaningful, I would say probably best meeting and day we\u2019ve had so far in this entire process, going back to when we first came to office in January.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The counter-proposal was published after the US president said Ukraine had shown \u201czero gratitude\u201d for American efforts to end the war.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mr Trump still has to sign off on the deal, Mr Rubio said. Russia, which has repeatedly changed its demands, also has to sign off on it.<\/p>\n<p>Under the European plan, Russia is \u201cto be progressively re-integrated into the global economy\u201d. The plan adds that the country could rejoin the G8.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The deal also states that the \u201csize of Ukraine military is to be capped at 800,000 in peacetime\u201d, whereas an earlier version of the European plan included no cap. The US-Russian proposal asked for a 600,000 cap.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The deal adds: \u201cUkraine will hold elections as soon as possible after the signing of the peace agreement.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, the European deal removes Russia\u2019s demand that Ukraine gives up the eastern Donbas region.<\/p>\n<p>The deal also removes a clause that would give the US 50 per cent of future profits from frozen Russian assets invested in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>The 28-point plan drawn up by the Americans demanded that Ukraine give up large tracts of land, including territory that has not even been conquered by Russian forces.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The European counter-proposal says that \u201cnegotiations on territorial swaps will start from the line of contact\u201d or front line.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong>(Trump&#8217;s plan:<\/strong>\u00a0Territories:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>a. Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk will be recognised as de facto Russian, including by the United States<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>b. Kherson and Zaporizhzhia will be frozen along the line of contact, which will mean de facto recognition along the line of contact<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>c. Russia will relinquish other agreed territories it controls outside the five regions<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>d. Ukrainian forces will withdraw from the part of Donetsk Oblast that they currently control, and this withdrawal zone will be considered a neutral demilitarised buffer zone, internationally recognised as territory belonging to the Russian Federation. Russian forces will not enter this demilitarised zone<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong>Europe&#8217;s counter-offer:\u00a0<\/strong>Ukraine commits not to recover its occupied sovereign territory through military means. Negotiations on territorial swaps will start from the line of contact)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It proposes that Ukraine should receive a security guarantee from Washington similar to Nato\u2019s Article 5 clause.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The Europeans want Russian sovereign assets to remain frozen until Moscow pays compensation for the immense damage it has caused since its full-scale invasion.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The counter-plan was drawn up by Britain, Germany and France \u2013 the so-called\u00a0European E3 powers.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sir Keir Starmer spoke to Mr Trump on Sunday and agreed that Ukraine was facing a \u201ccritical moment\u201d, a Downing Street spokesman said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe leaders discussed various aspects of the high-level discussions taking place in Geneva today on the US peace plan for Ukraine. They agreed that we all must work together at this critical moment to bring about a just and lasting peace.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Writing on his Truth Social platform, Mr Trump said: \u201cUkraine leadership has expressed zero gratitude for our efforts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He also criticised Europe for not doing enough to end the conflict. He did not criticise Moscow for invdaing Ukraine in the first place.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>The 28-point proposal put forward by the Trump administration has been widely criticised, even by some Republicans, as being far too favourable to Moscow.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"advert_tmg_dyn_2_container\" class=\"advert-container dynamicMpu\" data-js=\"dynamicMpu-ad\" data-adtype=\"dyn_2\" data-ad-slot-hidden=\"false\" data-ad-slot-id=\"advert_tmg_dyn_2_container\" data-perf=\"commerical-perf-2\">\n<p>Critics said that it read like a \u201cwish list\u201d for Putin. There were even claims that it had been drawn up by the Russians and then clumsily translated into English by Trump officials.<\/p>\n<p>Meaghan Mobbs, the daughter of Keith Kellogg, the US special envoy to Ukraine who announced last week that he will quit his post, claimed that the peace plan was originally written in Russian.<\/p>\n<p>She suggested that the document was \u201cnot originally written in English\u201d, pointing to transliteration errors and phrasing that is commonly used by Russia\u2019s government.<\/p>\n<p>The allegations were roundly denied by Trump officials.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Rubio wrote on social media that \u201cthe peace proposal was authored by the US. It is offered as a strong framework for ongoing negotiations. It is based on input from the Russian side. But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Critics of the Trump proposal\u00a0said that if accepted it would mean that Ukraine\u2019s huge sacrifices in blood and treasure would have been in vain.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mr Trump initially gave a deadline of Thursday \u2013 Thanksgiving \u2013 for Kyiv to accept the plan.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Friedrich Merz, Germany\u2019s chancellor,<\/strong> said he was sceptical the deadline would be met. \u201cRight now, I\u2019m not yet convinced we\u2019re going to get the solution President Trump wants in the next few days.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Donald Tusk, Poland\u2019s prime minister,<\/strong> said that Europe, Canada and Japan were prepared to work on the US plan despite their reservations.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHowever, before we start our work, it would be good to know for sure who is the author of the plan and where was it created,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alexander Stubb, Finland\u2019s president,<\/strong> said that he and Giorgia Meloni, Italy\u2019s prime minister, called Mr Trump early on Sunday to discuss the US plan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>On the same day, Ukrainian forces used drones to strike a power station in the Moscow region, triggering a fire and cutting off heating for thousands of people.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was one of Kyiv\u2019s biggest attacks to date on a power station deep inside Russia.<\/p>\n<p>The drones struck the Shatura power station, about 75 miles east of the Russian capital, where the temperature was around freezing.<\/p>\n<p>Video footage showed balls of flames and black smoke rising into the night sky.<\/p>\n<p>Russia\u2019s defence ministry said later that it had downed 75 Ukrainian drones, including 36 over the Black Sea and several over the Moscow region.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Russia Ukraine Monitoring Desk\u00a0 ISLAMABAD: Negotiations between the US and Ukraine in Geneva have concluded. According to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the US is making some changes to the peace plan, and today&#8217;s meetings were &#8220;the most productive and most significant.&#8221; He shares , &#8220;We have a very good working product that has already [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":55339,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[385,542,1957,375,270],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55335"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=55335"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55335\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":55356,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55335\/revisions\/55356"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/55339"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=55335"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=55335"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistanintheworld.pk\/live\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=55335"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}